The 'Page was first; long story, but politics and rank got to be an issue, and the 'Place was formed by a group of very active guys who just wanted things to be more open. When the 'Place sold out and put a new HNIC in place,another bunch of very active guys (including some of the same guys that migrated the first time) came over here and started the Truck Stop.
FWIW, when people are trying to work with us, we work with them. If people are trying to flaunt the rules here, we remind them and ask them to comply. We still have yet to ban anyone, clip their threads, or resort to heavy-handed censorship, despite what people remember.
Every site has politics, and rules of the road. Ours are pretty clear, and we expect everybody to respect them. Anybody can always go on other sites to find a different vibe, if that's what floats their boat. This site is built around respect and collegiality; good people hang out here because that's what they like.
Asking us to change because other sites are different is like immigrating here and then wanting us to adopt Sharia Law. If You like Sharia Law, you don't want to be in Canada.. go back home.
Bruce, Leroy, and the other vendors who support us, we're happy you're here and that you serve our members so well. In turn, we support you and hope your business thrives.
I understand from another thread that this site is reconsidering the vendor support model. Aka the vendor support model that is something as midevil and obsolete as Sharia Law.
I have already suffered financially over the DP censorship of the ATT and nearly did so here, except, this site was more lax and allowed me to get help with a tune. I do not enjoy breaking Sharia law type vendor support rules to find what I need to keep the dammed thing on the road, modified, and running better than factory.
Somehow there needs to be a way to allow "hobbies" and other low volume sales/backyard garage/one offs to go on that supports 6.5 owners. Clearly the Dmax and "modern" vehicle stuff is way more profitable than the 6.5 that has been out of general public production for 10+ years. This is why other sites can get the higher vendor fees.
For example the fabbed up HX40 downpipe that competes with the ATT that a member is selling on here. Only because that member is a supporting vendor does that fly. I think it is a service to 6.5 owners offering a part like this being a vendor or not. However, the same rules that apply here apply there, except you don't get banned here.
Hopefully the site owners will consider that the only remaining 6.5/6.2 owners are:
Hobbits/collectors - people with a love for the vehicle with no other reason to own one.
Poor folks who run older vehicles with no other choice.
Businesses/farm who have found a way to sell the oink out of a pig and make the 6.5 ownership profitable.
And a rare category is people who run one because they can and have $$ to throw at it but are not 'collectors'.
In other words not every 6.5 niche item will be profitable enough to support any site fees.
Don't get me wrong - I enjoy the support vendors like the OP and Burning Oil provide to this forum. I have also purchased products from supporting vendors here mainly because they were on here offering support for their products. I just hate the censorship that comes with it. IMO the DP is flat out hostile a supporting vendor here. Now X2...
At least we are able to discuss things here without censorship as long as we are not selling it.
Hopefully a new or existing support model will show up here that allows more transactions without vendor requirements. Yes the site has costs and there would of course be other ways to cover them: something the membership here appears open to. IMO we already lost too many good members over the last "crackdown".
