ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
So I just got off the phone with Dayco tech. Evidently there is nothing that physically locks the outer ring. So basically nothing to be gained by trying to use better parts. Didn't last any longer than my OEM one.
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- Thread starter ak diesel driver
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Well that's reason enough to not buy it in my thinking..
Will L.
Well-Known Member
Back to square one-
AC Delco or Fluidampr only.
If Dayco offered a lifetime warranty, and you put some Crosscheck across the two rings, checking it each oil change, and IF they didn’t give you grief to replace it a few times… then MAYBE consider it vs Delco if the price isn’t bad. But in my book stick with what works or spend the money for one that actually works better and never fails.
AC Delco or Fluidampr only.
If Dayco offered a lifetime warranty, and you put some Crosscheck across the two rings, checking it each oil change, and IF they didn’t give you grief to replace it a few times… then MAYBE consider it vs Delco if the price isn’t bad. But in my book stick with what works or spend the money for one that actually works better and never fails.
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
So it was bugging me about what I read about the ring so I did some searching and it turns out I misunderstood what they said. They were talking front to back not rotational. That's what the big snap ring is for.
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
So I went to start my truck at my job site today and it just clicked, verified the starter relay was what I was hearing. Went underneath with a hammer to tap on the starter. Had my son hit the key while I was under there. It cranked but had lots of sparks at the terminal. Got home and checked it and the wire was just dangling. So I pulled the cable and made a new end for it. Can't remember ever having one break like that before.
Will L.
Well-Known Member
I’ve seen it but only once. Never determined why, just figured vibration & when originally crimped it must have had a minor dent to start the crack from.
Better this end than the starter at least.
Better this end than the starter at least.
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
Forgot to post a picture of the homemade end
MrMarty51
Well-Known Member
Looks mighty nice.
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
Time for some preventative maintenance. 291k on the clock. Hoping to do gear drive ,I have two , so I thought I may as well put one on this engine. Timing chain doesn't have as much slop as I thought it would for that many miles. Also time for a new water pump as this one seems to be leaking. While I'm in there going to do new rocker buttons. DS valve cover has developed a pretty good leak so need to get in there anyway. Also have new injectors but I'm not sure I'm going to put them in just yet. My pop tester needs some love before I can test them.
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
so kinda a pian to install in the truck. Also not sure I like how the gears line up. Idler gears seem to set back farther than the crank and cam gears. Maybe they float around just seems like a lot.
Will L.
Well-Known Member
@ak diesel driver
Incase you see this before the text-
Flip the idler gears over. Larger gear still on left but the snap rings face outwards.
Incase you see this before the text-
Flip the idler gears over. Larger gear still on left but the snap rings face outwards.
Make sure there's clearance between the shafts and the front cover...
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
So according to Chris's pictures the long end of the idler shaft goes forward which I have. Must have been reassembled wrong if the snap ring goes outwards too. I'm assuming the cam gear goes on farther and the camshaft will come forward. If one of the idler gears is bigger it's not easily spotted.
dbrannon79
I'm getting there!
Hope this isn't what happened about the miss-aligned marks causing the timing to be off. iirc some were marked in the wrong place or some such.
@ak diesel driver
Did someone take it apart at some point?
Both shafts have the "long" end facing out...
My pic is with everything installed, it shows the cam and gear drive and the lower gear all lined up at the rear of them all ...
You should also have a bronze thrust washer on the back side of the upper gear .... grease will keep it in place on the gear when installing it...
And the bigger idler gear goes on the p/s of the motor... AND I'LL SAY AGAIN... MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CLEARANCE TO THE FRONT COVER...
And I suggest rotating the motor several times to make sure the dots line up, notice the top gear isn't marked right... a degree wheel is best if you have one...
Did someone take it apart at some point?
Both shafts have the "long" end facing out...
My pic is with everything installed, it shows the cam and gear drive and the lower gear all lined up at the rear of them all ...
You should also have a bronze thrust washer on the back side of the upper gear .... grease will keep it in place on the gear when installing it...
And the bigger idler gear goes on the p/s of the motor... AND I'LL SAY AGAIN... MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CLEARANCE TO THE FRONT COVER...
And I suggest rotating the motor several times to make sure the dots line up, notice the top gear isn't marked right... a degree wheel is best if you have one...
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FYI, I take the gears apart and lube the shafts so they aren't dry...
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
Yes I sent it to leroy so he could use it to make others, so I assume it was taken apart. I do have the thrust washer on the cam gear. Getting ready to go out to the shop and start working on it.