GM to introduce mid sized Diesel Truck

[Drago]

what's it take to convert to Propane?

 

[Burning oil]

$1000 for DIY + you also need a tank $200ish on Craigslist. I have one kit in stock for newer sequentialy injected gasser. Once you have LPG you'll hit yourself for not doing it years ago.

 

[Big T]

Leroy, why don't you just buy a Tesla or a Leaf and get completely off Dino. You can charge them with solar or wind power which is renewable and "FREE". You can drive for just penneys on Chinese made Lithium ion batteries and 100% torque is available across the power band.

 

[Burning oil]

Leroy, why don't you just buy a Tesla or a Leaf and get completely off Dino. You can charge them with solar or wind power which is renewable and "FREE". You can drive for just penneys on Chinese made Lithium ion batteries and 100% torque is available across the power band.

Down the road I will. But the battery tech is not where it needs to be yet, affordably anyway.
For now I'll stick to my 6.5's and my gassers running on good old made in USA Propane. A domestic source of energy unlike most other road fuels.

 

[WarWagon]

Not seeing that price differential between gas and diesel here in CA.

No way does the 454 get comparable mileage to the equivalent diesel. It's not even close. I have a good friend who used to tow an 11K to 12K boat with a 454 powered Suburban and it got 6 mpg. He now tows it with a 7.3 powered Excursion and it gets 10 mpg. That's a 67% improvement.

I do agree that CNG will gain prominence in the future, mostly in localized delivery fleets like FedEx and UPS. As a result, I bought Cummins stock on the dip back in June and I'm loving the 20% gain.

A GM 454 is the equivalent year correct to a optional GM 6.5 TD and is a MPG wash towing hard. This is specific to the 6.5 TD and a reason the resale is soooo low.

On a GM 6.5 TD with the factory asthma attack turbo the MPG is 7 towing through the grades below the speed limit. A gas engine gets 6 MPG of the several I tried on the same route at the speed limit. Choose another diesel or modify the 6.5 TD and the numbers tip toward the diesel. 100 miles 6 MPG at $3 gas takes $50.00. 100 miles 7MPG at $4 diesel #2 takes $57.14. 9MPG at $4 takes $44.44. 500 miles a day $222 diesel at 9MPG: $285.7 at 7MPG: gas at 6MPG takes $250. 10 MPG #2 is $200. The 7 MPG takes 71.42 gal of diesel draining the main and aux tank to a 50 mile range. The gas engines took time to re-fuel 3-4 times a day.

So putting an ATT on a 6.5 takes you from 7 MPG to 10 MPG with a cost savings of $85.70 per 500 hard worked miles.

I've touched 11MPG towing on flat routes with the 6.5 stock turbo, but at 62 MPH. No gas engine to compare was used on the easy route.

Any other diesel engine we just move on to maintenance costs (2x oil amount, 2x batteries, $ fuel filters, expensive repairs...) eating up the some of the savings from better MPG on more expensive fuel. The other diesel engines were not available in GM stuff...

 

[WarWagon]

Leroy, why don't you just buy a Tesla or a Leaf and get completely off Dino. You can charge them with solar or wind power which is renewable and "FREE". You can drive for just penneys on Chinese made Lithium ion batteries and 100% torque is available across the power band.

Add $20K for your solar array to charge it. Sunny days in select locations only. Good luck with NIMBYS for serious wind power. Or use the obsolete undersized brownout and blackout prone power grid of ours powered by natural gas, nukes, coal, oil, and other sources too small to mention. Good luck charging on a cold or hot day when the grid is failing to keep up with demand. possible, but, you are not completely off oil unless you use your own power sourced from wind/solar. Then there is the Tesla's parts made from dino tires, lube oil...

 

[Will L.]

So what about the ATT on a 454? Somebody out there has to have one they can play with...then run it on LPG and what do you get?

 

[Burning oil]

The Ranger Diesel Mod.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JGMKjp0U2o

 

[Burning oil]

This is a good looking truck even without the camo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhvPLekrlao

 

[tanman_2006]

So what about the ATT on a 454? Somebody out there has to have one they can play with...then run it on LPG and what do you get?

I'll let you if I get the 454 I'm looking at! Lol

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