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- #21
Bootlegged, power stolen from another source. Like an end around. Stealing the power from the other panel, so in essence you would have 2 main panels. But you would need to have 2 main breakers. This is the way it should be wired up.
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electrical distribution sub panel or twin panels ????
- Thread starter schiker
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Will L.
Well-Known Member
I should have said before, don't label up the panels that way until you verify that is what's happening. Really need to get the dead fronts off and take some pics. Going to bed to trace the supply wires feeding each panel to make sure of its source.
To clarify RI Chevy's bootleg comment: the picture he posted is how it is supposed to be done. "Bootlegged" is incorrect or stolen power and should never be done.
Not saying you are- just an in general statement:
I don't care if someone is doing it to steal power form the power company and feeding half their building from pre meter, it's a dangerous method. I would never encourage anyone to steal, but if people do it they need to at least do it safely. A fine or a couple months in jail is one thing- people dying is another.
I have family members that like to keep hidden their employment by the power company to avoid issues. But I frequently hear of "this house burned down" or "the electrocution of that person". Most of the time it's the resident.
Back when I tired leaving wrench turning for a while and became an electrician, I did many re-wire of houses. I've seen enough aftermath of what seems like a safe thing to most people. I've also seen things that make you wonder how people can breathe by themselves they are so stupid.
Sorry for the rant, I know I get worked up sometimes...
To clarify RI Chevy's bootleg comment: the picture he posted is how it is supposed to be done. "Bootlegged" is incorrect or stolen power and should never be done.
Not saying you are- just an in general statement:
I don't care if someone is doing it to steal power form the power company and feeding half their building from pre meter, it's a dangerous method. I would never encourage anyone to steal, but if people do it they need to at least do it safely. A fine or a couple months in jail is one thing- people dying is another.
I have family members that like to keep hidden their employment by the power company to avoid issues. But I frequently hear of "this house burned down" or "the electrocution of that person". Most of the time it's the resident.
Back when I tired leaving wrench turning for a while and became an electrician, I did many re-wire of houses. I've seen enough aftermath of what seems like a safe thing to most people. I've also seen things that make you wonder how people can breathe by themselves they are so stupid.
Sorry for the rant, I know I get worked up sometimes...
- Staff
- #23
I agree. I should have been a little more specific. That picture is the correct way to wire a subpanel.
Get the panel fronts off and let"s see inside. I suspect you have one main panel and a subpanel with a 2 pole 50 or 2 pole 60 breaker fed off the main panel. It can't be HOT all the time.
Get the panel fronts off and let"s see inside. I suspect you have one main panel and a subpanel with a 2 pole 50 or 2 pole 60 breaker fed off the main panel. It can't be HOT all the time.
ak diesel driver
6.5 driver
Maybe he has a 400A service for his house. Where's the sarcasm font when you need it. Lol
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- #25
Maybe even 400A 3 phase!
jrsavoie
Recruit
I used to have that.
Until they upped the price of having 3 phase from $70 minimum bill - which we were always over anyway - to $70 was our new zero.
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- #28
Wow. If you have a NEED for 3 phase that is one thing. But if you do not then there is no need for the extra money spent.
jrsavoie
Recruit
I had a lathe and air compressor. I all but gave both away because they were 3 phase.
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- #30
That sucks. I hear you. 