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ATT for christmas

Yep Sorry I digressed here as well. Kind of lost my objectivity concerning my little 26 pound baby.
 
I too am sorry that i brought something here that doesn't belong here.

Sorry guys. :frown5:
 
iamdave0887 said:
And here's what you, guybb3, said when all this was said and done.



Very professional of you. :rolleyes: He answered with his opinion. I answered you as well, as calmly and as professionally as i could muster after I've watched from the sidelines in pain as the brother's of the 6.5 fight over something so trivial.

Like i said there goes my good standing here. C'est la vie...

- Dave
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Not for nothing, Dave, but Green Machine takes a shot every chance he gets and that's getting old. The GD thread wasn't even about turbos. Name the other turbos please. I am listening and I do want to know. The only other proven one I've even heard about (beside your latest post) is Ronnie Joe's.
 
Hey, guybb3 - I know what ya mean, but if Green wants to take these little potshots over there in unrelated threads like he did in the chip thread, let him. Your first comment (above) was fine; accurate and enough to make the point. Then things went downhill a bit...

Thing is, We can do better here. We don't need to get into a slinging match when we already have the high ground.

Good example? Here's a thread about the ATT - we're going to see some pics and hopefully video of the installation. We would have seen it even if VegOut and Slim weren't vendors here, just because a member is proud about showing off his stuff and wants to share, and because it's a good thing for the 6.5TD community... could that happen there, despite the fact that no vendor there sells a competing turbo?

Let's carry on, gents...
 
Having watched the various turbo discussions for a couple years now, I have what I believe is a relevant thought to keep in mind.

Folks that have actual experience running the stock turbo & turbo X, have actual experience they can relate when comparing/contrasting the 2 turbo's they've run.

It's when the discussions trend into statements/comparisons to turbo's that folks haven't actually run, that things get clouded. Simply because it's gone from real-world experience & data, to theorizing & supposition.

Turbo theory has it's place & the sharpest turbo guys I know have spent many years going btwn math/theory/computational fluid dynamics & then installing a given turbo & measuring every operating parameter they can figure out a way of practically measuring. Then they pour over the datalogs 'til they've got a real depth of understanding how the turbo performs in a range of different conditions.

The challenge in reading through quite a few of the 6.5 turbo comparison posts over the past few years, is discerning what is actually known - vs - what is thought to be so, but perhaps hasn't been actually verified by running/measuring/truly understanding the turbo being discussed.
 
Ahh! It is good! Santa brings a man a turbo for Christmas and the world just seems to be a better place!

Since we have so much wisdom here... perhaps you could all check me on another suspicion I have. Bear with me while I ramble a bit.

SmithvilleD touched on the theory vs. actual and that thought leads to selecting/refining a turbo that will ultimitely be a compromise with a focus on an area that you wish to maximize. Unless of course you throw all kinds of money at a variable rate turbo and all that the latest technology has to offer.

Lets rewind the tape back to early 6.5L turbo development days. I suspect the gmx wastegate was a compromise. One that included NOx and unburned hydrocarbons, that we are not really too concerned about. Ha, our job got easier.

I believe they were going at improving the lauch. Surely someone in Detroit got the word that the 6.2 NA was a bit like Clyde the Camel (lol), copyright Ray Stevens I believe. So, you got the best compromise between money, launch and emissions?

Thus, I suspect the huge backpressure to boost pressure ratio, was driven simply to achieve the egr flow?

The whole IDI and big exhaust restriction thing was a great plan to make a quiet, clean, inexpensive, light duty package. Unfortunitely, the market actually put the thing to work!!

Fortunitely, many of you have worked hard and long at making improvements to share with others. Now that is the Christmas Spirit!

I can tell you how confident I am in the A Team Turbo... I bought two before ever seeing one, riding one or for that matter, ever seeing a video of one!

Merry Christmas 6.5oalroller!!
 
Certainly exhaust pressure has been regulated for EGR purposes in applications since the 6.5 came out. Would guess the IDI chamber would be keeping some degree of exhaust holdover, but don't really know how significant the amount may be.

Interesting timing you'd bring up the variable geometry subject as I just got to work this afternoon on checking out a Holset HE351ve VGT turbo (from the 6.7 Cummins) I picked up on ebay for $100 plus shipping.

The goal is most certainly to not throw excess money at this project, but to play w/ the latest technology & see if it can be made to work well on my 6.5. As this thread subject isn't about VGT, I'll start another thread & post some pics later this evening.
 
SmithvilleD said:
Interesting timing you'd bring up the variable geometry subject as I just got to work this afternoon on checking out a Holset HE351ve VGT turbo (from the 6.7 Cummins) I picked up on ebay for $100 plus shipping.

The goal is most certainly to not throw excess money at this project, but to play w/ the latest technology & see if it can be made to work well on my 6.5. As this thread subject isn't about VGT, I'll start another thread & post some pics later this evening.
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That would be cool and I'd love to see it!!
 
SmithvilleD said:
Certainly exhaust pressure has been regulated for EGR purposes in applications since the 6.5 came out. Would guess the IDI chamber would be keeping some degree of exhaust holdover, but don't really know how significant the amount may be.

Interesting timing you'd bring up the variable geometry subject as I just got to work this afternoon on checking out a Holset HE351ve VGT turbo (from the 6.7 Cummins) I picked up on ebay for $100 plus shipping.

The goal is most certainly to not throw excess money at this project, but to play w/ the latest technology & see if it can be made to work well on my 6.5. As this thread subject isn't about VGT, I'll start another thread & post some pics later this evening.
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Smithville D you have a PM. :D
 
NVW thanks. Any other ATT vids? Anyone?

Looks like you have the Kilometer dash. 0-100 Km in a little over 12 seconds. Not too shabby at all. 100km is right around 62mph...
 
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