@Husker6.5
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I definitely agree the quality of the crude has a huge part in it. Better crude is better for many reasons. How it’s formed we disagree, that chapter later.
On the bio, it isn’t the biofuel itself that has the issue. It the ethanol or methanol that is used in it promotes absorbing water into suspension thats the issue. If everything is kept pure-it’s way better fuel. What about b100? How often was bugs in fuel a problem in the 1970’s?
All the water gets extracted after frac during refining btw because it wont stay emulsified at 90 psi and 500f and above. Most separate it at 195f and no maintained pressure.
The lubricity advances stop by 10% bio in even the most extreme cases. And it takes how much water by volume to create more damage than the added lube helps?
My opinion good or bad-
DIY bio- yup. A company that produces, trucks, AND retails it-yup. But as soon as a 2nd company is involved- NOPE! the blame game and sales tactics allow for too high a risk. When a consumer can prove 1 company is liable- they control it correctly. Thats why I say for some places it’s a great thing, for others it’s horrible.
Ok, it’s later.
As to the biogenic vs abiogenic as to where we get petroleum, and formation of it... (as if not debated a many times over already) I start a different approach:
Water is hydrogen and oxygen & Found in animals. We don't assume millions of dinosaurs decayed and gave us water found underground.
Coal I agree could very well be old forests. Doesn’t have to be but a logical argument.
Why hydrogen and carbon forming oils came from big lizards is not the side I take. I used to because it was taught to me in school. Then I worked in the industry, and learned a lot more about it. The guy who Put forth the concept of it died believing in alchemy as a viable supply of gold and silver btw. Haha
Just north of 100 elements that make up everything. Once combined then reprocessed, that makes it synthesized-right? How come all fuels at the gas pump aren’t synthetic? Run it through the same plant twice and it is. Did it go through the first step as an animal? Trim your finger and tow nails and do the lab work on them and scope it, I know you know how. Now process it in a pyrolysis and it is synthetic- hmm.
How come the sulfur is so high? That is where this issue comes to light. ULSD, right? How much sulfur would dinosaurs have to eat. Seriously, if you investigate anything- figure this out.
Also no one can begin to answer issues in ALL petroleum like the poisons present that would have killed all the life that supposedly lived, grew huge in size and numbers, then died making a pool of oil in a rock. Yet not one oil well anywhere doesn’t have them.
What about The massive difference in chemical make up from one oil well to another? Texas had the good dinosaurs and not Canada I suppose.
Real simple. The expert of the time thought “what could have dissolved and created this puddle”. He came up with the biggest thing he could think of that was all the rage at the time- dinosaur. That was his hobby. That is how he spent his money- buying dino bones. Since he understood the best method of extraction and processing- all the big companies hired him- anyone that disagreed at the time couldn’t get paid.
Nowadays more people can disagree without loosing income over it and will. But most don’t care enough about it to rock the boat. Most reading this here in this forum learned in school dino=oil and believe it because- why not and who cares! They just want fuel at a cheap price and have it not ruin their car. Most in oil/fuel industry just want a good paycheck with good benefits and a cold beer at 5:01.
How come since we have even found dinosaurs with good dna and the non petrified blood vessels, there is no crude oil ever found with the bones?
Ever do the mass math: How many dinosaurs over 100 lbs lived according to the experts in that field?
What is that collective mass? Thats is a hard way to do it and never gets completed- so that is how it is brought up in school (imo).
Work it backwards: How much oil have we consumed so far? Just 1970-today. What’s the mass? What % of dinosaurs turns into liquid crude and what% gasses? Assume 100% conversion just to be nice. Were there ever enough dinosaurs? Suddenly need all the fish in the ocean too. Never mind the fish that ate other fish and t-rex eating his share.
Tectonic plate subduction. Did we loose any oil?
Major earthquake that ended the massive oil fields in Northern Nevada and Northern Utah. Most the world never heard of it. Go to Eagle Valley and ask, everyone of them can explain it in finite detail. Media squash.
“We” as society cant go back on “fossil fuels” as a ““science””. Even if we prove the Earth is not flat, some folks just won’t let go.
Why did Hawaii ban fracking in 2013. No billions of years worth of dinosaurs. But many companies started fracking there- hmm. True no major oil supply there. But look how it is formed and the natural gas they were (no longer are) extracting there. My great uncle owned land that he was leasing to the gas company where one of the larger wells was on. Dinosaurs do not equal oil.
