Got it started. i un hooked the batts and touched the + to the - on both sides hooked them back up (dont think this really helped but i did it) security light still stayed on. My mom ran my wife the 20 miles home from our cabin to get her suburban and my scan tool, while i stayed and helped my dad with the projects we had going. When she got back i hooked up the scanner and turned the key on and the security light went out so i tried it and it started, wife wasnt to happy that she had to go do all that for nothing but i did check the codes and i cant remember the numbers now but they where both for the anti theft system. the good news is i told her how if i got a reflashed ecm they can turn that off so she said i can order one :thumbsup: so i finally get to get my tune