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The GM dealership here in Moscow, ID just closed it's doors. Went out of business, shipped all their inventory to the dealership in Lewiston.
Sign of the times I guess.
It looks like it's a done deal...
GM Relocating Five-Cylinder Engine Production Back to Plant Where 4.5-Liter Diesel Was to Be Built
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/0...-to-plant-where-4-5liter-diesel-was-to-b.html
GM Indefinitely Postpones 4.5-Liter Duramax Light-Duty Diesel Engine
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/0...-45liter-duramax-lightduty-diesel-engine.html
The article above mentions this:
The 4.5-liter Duramax was a major innovation for diesel engines. It was designed by GM entirely in-house and represented a radical new approach to diesel engine architecture... The breakthrough design eliminated the intake and exhaust manifolds and other related components, saving weight, reducing size and lowering costs by up to an estimated $600 per engine versus a conventional diesel. GM promised power ratings for the 4.5-liter Duramax would be more than 310 horsepower and 520 pounds-feet of torque with up to 25 percent better fuel economy.
That is the first time I've seen an indication on what the cost for the 4.5L diesel would have been.
According to Edmunds, the LMM Duramax 6.6L diesel by itself costs (MSRP/invoice):
$7,795 / $6,470 in a van, and
$7,195 / $5,972 in a 2500HD pickup.
Even if the 4.5L was $600 less than the MSRP of an LMM, that's still a very expensive option over the price of a gas engine.
I think I'd rather spend the extra $600 to get the 6.6L.
Matter of fact, I'd rather save that $600 by buying an LBZ rather than an LMM, not to mention the additional savings of the truck itself being used.
:nonod::nonod::nonod: I don't know what your experiences were there, if any, but I'm going to miss them. They've always treated me and my truck very well. What is it their sign says now, "Come Visit Us at Tyler & Kelly in Lewiston"? I asked the guys in Moscow one time, I think the same person(s) own both dealerships, and a 3rd somewhere.
Had very good dealings with them in the short time I've been here. The "Tyler" part of the business ownes 4....well 3 now. Salmon, ID; Missoula, MT; Lewiston, ID; and the former Moscow, ID. I actually worked one summer with a couple of his daughters when I lived near Salmon.
I bought our truck from the Missoula dealership when I lived on that side of Idaho. That's their big store. Bigger than the Lewiston store.
Have to chuckle, the Ford dealership in Moscow is running ads on the radio that all GM owners on the Palouse don't need to go to Lewiston or Pullman for car repairs. They can do it for you.
Have you had bad luck at the Pullman GM dealership?
The 2010 6.6L Duramax will have the urea injection system (as will the Ford Powerstroke), but that is to meet the more stringent NOx standards. The DPF is a Diesel Particulate Filter, and unfortunately the 2010 diesels will still have those....IIRC, the '10 1/2 tons and I believe the 6.6L trucks as well were going to get the Urea injection exhaust, which would drastically improve mpg, getting them back where they should be out of the box for a diesel. Hopefully that doesn't go away with the 4.5 engine.