JayTheCPA
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Uh, oh... Does anybody own a Hino?
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A New Diesel Emissions Bust in 2025
- Thread starter JayTheCPA
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That's the reason Kobelco closed the track hoe plant in Moore SC back when I worked there...
jrsavoie
Recruit
Maybe Trump will help on the front as well.
Will L.
Well-Known Member
Lies to meet emissions and mpg means they screwed everyone all around.
VW got the mpg they said they did- it only hurt on the excess emissions.
People who got the corrected VW set up then lost mpg.
What do think will happen with Hino? They should use most that money to reimburse the owners. They won’t but should.
It’s a defect in product known by the manufacturer and every owner should be entitled to a full refund of original purchase price. That would rock the company and scare others into not risking this going forward.
You all know my stance on saving the spotted tree whales, but when I buy a 20oz coke it should deliver all 20 oz promised. 19 oz or not the proper ratio of sugar and I better get back my $. If my neighbor wants pure air out the tail pipe and thats what they advertise- thats what I should get and be fully refunded when obviously known defrauding occurs.
The cp4- GM blamed Bosch, Bosch blamed GM, both blamed the gubmint but in the end the owners of the trucks should get free replacement of the entire fuel system so long as the rest of the truck passes registration requirements regardless of mileage or age, and have a loaner truck while theirs is in the dealership regardless how long it takes them to get parts & fix.
I am all for companies making billions, trillions even. But never by ripping off a customer. Thats theft in my book and victims should be restored wholly including the aggravation. Instead our courts went from righting the wronged to putting money in the gubmints pockets.
VW got the mpg they said they did- it only hurt on the excess emissions.
People who got the corrected VW set up then lost mpg.
What do think will happen with Hino? They should use most that money to reimburse the owners. They won’t but should.
It’s a defect in product known by the manufacturer and every owner should be entitled to a full refund of original purchase price. That would rock the company and scare others into not risking this going forward.
You all know my stance on saving the spotted tree whales, but when I buy a 20oz coke it should deliver all 20 oz promised. 19 oz or not the proper ratio of sugar and I better get back my $. If my neighbor wants pure air out the tail pipe and thats what they advertise- thats what I should get and be fully refunded when obviously known defrauding occurs.
The cp4- GM blamed Bosch, Bosch blamed GM, both blamed the gubmint but in the end the owners of the trucks should get free replacement of the entire fuel system so long as the rest of the truck passes registration requirements regardless of mileage or age, and have a loaner truck while theirs is in the dealership regardless how long it takes them to get parts & fix.
I am all for companies making billions, trillions even. But never by ripping off a customer. Thats theft in my book and victims should be restored wholly including the aggravation. Instead our courts went from righting the wronged to putting money in the gubmints pockets.
JayTheCPA
Well-Known Member
It's kind of interesting that a Japanese company has now gotten bitten on lax engineering standards multiple times across its product lines. Bit from floor mats that captured the throttle and caused a few deaths when the software would not allow the brakes system to override the engine (specifically, in a power-braking scenario, the logic disregarded the brake input and let the engine override the brakes). Bit from putting a hybrid system in a SUV which was designed for a lighter car and the SUV's hybrid system would suddenly die and leave the car with zero powertrain control (which was ironic for a vehicle with both electric and ICE propulsion). And now not paying attention to what happened to VW and Daimler with their diesel misadventures.
IIRC, their culture demands high standards and even a train engineer got disciplined and passengers got an apology when the engineer left the station four seconds (Yes, correct, SECONDS) prior to schedule.
IIRC, their culture demands high standards and even a train engineer got disciplined and passengers got an apology when the engineer left the station four seconds (Yes, correct, SECONDS) prior to schedule.
Kobelco knew the motors they were using, hino, didn't and couldn't pass emissions from before they ever built the plant in SC. They always thought they could get a waiver but that fell through so they closed the plant... Kobelco is half Japanese half Chinese...