Back on track - I put my Stant (yeah, I did it, too - once) 195* thermostat in a pot of water and boiled it, after Bill Heath suggested it when we changed it out for the ACDelco 195. The damn thing started late and only half-way opened by the time it was at 205 on my IR thermometer, and never opened much more than that by 212... I dunno HOW hot you would have to get it to open fully.