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New Scorpion = NO more Handshaker.....

Well, I'd still rather get a dodge over a ford.... but it's lame the big 3 are dropping manual transmissions. Dodge definatly has the niche of the market if they keep the option around.
 
Well at least now were (GM guys) not the only ones.

Now somebody will start coming up with a way to swap ZF6's in these trucks aftermarket wise.
 
Personally, I'm going to be done with college in the next year or so, and when I'm done I'll be buying a CCLB Duramax GMC..... I've thought about swapping in a manual into that. I know It will be a PITA but it's possible.
 
That scorpion is STUPID complicated. It shows why ford has been the inferior american brand for decades. They're like the american equivilant of a german car. They use 5 parts to do the job 1 part could ( and should ) do. This is exactly the reason they have no business engineering their own diesel. I've always been a cummins fan and now that dodge is the only handshaker available, i know where i'm shopping in the very near future.
 
Based on the 3 Dodge pickups that I had to drive for previous jobs I'd never own one. Nothing wrong with the engine, but when tie rods fall off, frame cracks at the weld, computer fries 1 1/2 blocks from the dealership with 5 miles on the odo, drivers door misaligned and hard to close, glove box falls off, seat belt buzzer randomly goes off even if the belt is buckled, I got rather fed up. They were from late '90's to 2001 and was at most 2 years old on the one when I had it.
 
Well, there was a time that GM truck frames would bend if you put anything larger than a cinder block in the bed and chew up idler arms every few thousand miles. The last generation dodge are leaps and bounds ahead of the previous generations. The new generation is probably a step beyond GM and ford IMO.
 
randomid25 said:
Well, there was a time that GM truck frames would bend if you put anything larger than a cinder block in the bed. The last generation dodge and the new gen dodges are leaps and bounds ahead of where they were, and IMO GM and ford as well.
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I see a Dodge in your future.
 
randomid25 said:
Well, there was a time that GM truck frames would bend if you put anything larger than a cinder block in the bed and chew up idler arms every few thousand miles. The last generation dodge are leaps and bounds ahead of the previous generations. The new generation is probably a step beyond GM and ford IMO.
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That reminds me of the pre- 94 Ram frames, about as rigid as wet spaghetti.
 
while any pickup has its setbacks somewhere in the design, i don't think anyone can argue that frame technology, drivetrain technology, and creature comforts are lightyears ahead of what they were even 10 years ago, let alone 20 years ago.
 
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