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TST and Smarty

Discussion in 'GM Tuning' started by hoot, May 10, 2008.

  1. hoot

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    Anybody runnin both?

    What program and setting with medium upgrades? See sig
     
  2. 01duramax6spd

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    Why looky there,Ol Hoot. Been a while since I seen you anywhere. Lots of guys are running both. I would if I had a Goat. GotJuice runs both I think.
     
  3. hoot

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    Thanks. I've been strong on the Dodge forums. I like this better than TDP because it caters to more than one brand exclusive and there are a bunch of old friends joining up.
     
  4. 03Tommy

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    Run both, I ran the smarty on the upper numbers and TST down really low. Granted I had the stock clutch still. But everyone I know loves that stack and runs the smarty on 8 or 9 and leaves the TST around the 3's or 4's
     
  5. 01duramax6spd

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    What are you guys seeing MPG wise out of the Smarty and do you have any dyno #'s? My buddy is looking at one for his 07 5.9.
     
  6. hoot

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    I just loaded mine tonight. Tried 6 just to see what it did. Man does it wake up the low end big time. I love it. I upgraded to Revo tonight. Raining and wet roads so I can't do too much. Maybe tomorrow I'll go up to 8 or 9.
     
  7. gmperformance03

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    You definately should be putting down some good power with those mods...how high of boost levels are you seeing & are EGT's pretty managable?
     
  8. Got Juice?

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    TSTRAP49
    SMARTY TNT'R' version (4200 rpms etc)
    SPS 62/14
    AFE Bladerunner
     
  9. Got Juice?

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    SMARTY TNT Race is a great tune, a little thirsty though.

    The Regular TNT is based on Beta 4.4

    I see 20 us mpg empty

    I did 426 on Beta 4.4
    Still stock turboed with that number, and stock intake and exhaust.

    Right now, my SOTP meter tells me 475 RW (clutch limited) and 900 lbsft.
     
  10. hoot

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    Thanks Juice.

    I dynoed 423/810 consistently before the mechanical mods and only the TST box.

    The new turbo is funny how differently it does EGT's. Just like I was told, you run a little hotter (700-800) with light driving. The heat hangs a little more in the 500-600 range than cools at idle to the 300 range. The stainless housing is supposed to help it retain heat but my probe is pre turbo. But the big difference is she doesn't jump up (heat) fast when you lay on the power. I peg my boost gauge at 40. I guess the stock sensor that the TST reads from is limited to 40. The Goerend likes the power. Shifts like a dream. I never would have expected to actually like the way my 48RE works but now I'm impressed.
     
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  11. Got Juice?

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    Hoot, sorry, I forgot to add that the HP number was with SMARTY only on level 5. And that was with the stock charger.
     
  12. Got Juice?

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    What I really like about the SMARTY is the low end, extended RPM range and the fuel economy.

    The TST is kinda flat down low, and runs hotter EGT's compared to it.


    But stacked is a mean combo!
     
  13. WhitetailAddict

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    I had the cummins thing before I bought my Duramax. I had a TST Powermax CR on it. The box was the earlier model without the twin setting and those, it just had 9 stages on torque and horsepower. My truck would push 48psi on 9/9 but it ran DANG HOT! I believe it ran so hot because of not having a FASS system. The box performed well for me, enough power to cost me a stock clutch.
    The Smarty/TST stack is starting to catch on around here, I bet it is mean. I haven't talked to too many that are running it to know what levels to use. I understand that the odd levels on the Smarty are stackable.
    I also talked to someone this weekend who did a diode mod?, to his TST box to help the fueling down low. It definately smoked alot off the line(pulling a sled), unlike any TST I have seen.
     
  14. Knightrider

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    I'm running the Smarty(SW # 2)/TST was (3/3) now (2/1) stack.

    I like it a lot. Beware what the companies say about power settings and stock transmissions; even with the low settings I'm running I'm pretty sure my clutches are fried.
     
  15. hoot

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    I dynoed this weekend with the new mods.

    541/1035

    Smarty on 9 TST on 3/0 TST on 4/0 the power came down.

    Now I'm thinking I should have loaded TNT
     
  16. WhitetailAddict

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    Hey hoot, how did the event go? I would have liked to make it down but I didn't get a chance. Could you post some results?
     
  17. Got Juice?

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    If you send me a VIN number I can get you the TNT-Race version.

    You need valvesprings and studs though. Fuel to 4200 rpms.....:cornut:
     
  18. hoot

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    Results

    Here are some of the results Sat only. I didn't go on Sunday.
    Had a great time. Two 1000hp+ dynos in the list

    Thanks Juice but I'm gonna hold her at this level for a while. It's my daily driver.

    Chadd Kable...04 Dodge.......646.33/1099.53
    RobertP.........05 Dodge.......691.91/1152.83
    Mike Stauber..99 Dodge.......360.56/791.98
    Tom Mushala..01 Dodge.......452.62/926.64
    Jesse Beck.....07 Jeep.........149.51/177.82(gasser on 37's)
    BSwope.........06 Dodge.......488.06/966.11
    VaPStroke......01 Ford.........333.51/645.72
    Wes Stankiewicz..06 Dodge..524.59/1091.92
    Nick17847......93 Dodge.......326.05/786.74
    YoHoot..........04 Dodge.......541.58/1039.45
    Jerre Thomas..01 Dodge.......457.75/887.50
    Rams-N-Hogs..04 Dodge.......686.24/1099.47(#2 Only)
    Rams-N-Hogs..04 Dodge.......1040.12/1200+(Drugs)
    Todd Johnson..96 Dodge.......377.44/814.80
    Jesse Little.....02 Dodge.......504.22/831.02(#2 Only)
    Jesse Little.....02 Dodge.......565.74/941.53(Drugs)
    Kris Meyers.....02 Ford.........374.67/756.93
    Peter Jedrys....01 Ford.........431.29/838.11
    Archie Varone..92 Dodge......236.37/456.86
    Josh Starner....93 Dodge......369.55/779.54
    Wes Stankiewicz..06 Dodge...551.37/1126.31
    HighFinance97...97 Dodge.....413.36/960.85(never got the turbo lit)
    Eric Saresky.....98 VW Jetta..84.13/(no torque reading)
    Ryan McGinty...01 Dodge......516.25/1009.52
    Thuglike.......Y2K Ford..........633.11/1027.90(And yes,Crow Is Tasty!)
    JoeMc..........99 Dodge.........516.44/992.52
    Ian Hicks......05 Dodge.........511.35/946.99
    LMills...........05 Dodge.........825.04/1200+(#2 Only)
    LMills...........05 Dodge.........1170.56/1200+(Drugs)
    C.J.Long......06 Dodge..........609.35/1012.58
    Mike Ayers...04.5 Dodge.......586.73/948.00
    Neil Doll.......95 Dodge..........250.08/612.13
    Wes Stankiewicz..06 Dodge...572.39/1088.13
    Chuck Bahm....02 Ford.........283.14/609.73
     
  19. hoot

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    Here's more results...

    Huff-N-Puff.....01 Dodge......632.51/1049.42
    Joe Landers...Y2K Dodge......450.28/898.39
    Matt Jacobs....02 Dodge......503.92/1001.51
    Fiveology........01 Dodge......536.63/1043.57
    Jack Priebe.....04 Duramax....469.96/869.30
    JD730............93 Dodge.......424.80/1039.61
    Lonnie James..06 Dodge.......301.39/546.48
    Travis Sanderson..94 Dodge..356.28/883.75
    Roy Green......93 Dodge.......338.27/799.06
    Jeremy Keller...01 Dodge......534.68/1061.46
    Signal73.........01 Dodge......552.45/1021.75
    Adam Sheton..06 Ford.........389.81/743.27
    Travis Marzo...06 Dodge......465.23/1021.50
    Hammer.........98 Dodge......457.73/980.37
    Matt Roberts..05 Dodge......556.98/1173.79
    J.D.Witter......95 Ford........299.00/634.49
    Cody Imes.....93 Dodge......499.34/998.70
    Angelo Ezzo...04 Dodge......402.27/932.86
    Nick17847.....93 Dodge......402.27/932.86
    Dan Vampel....03 Dodge.....536.53/1002.48
    Ethan Clayton..01 Dodge....372.93/862.88
    Tim Brink........94 Dodge.....372.29/788.83
    Wildbore.......06 Dodge.......700.84/1200+(#2 Only)
    Wildbore.......06 Dodge.......960.12/1200+(Drugs)
     
  20. WhitetailAddict

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    Thanks for the results hoot. Looks like some high #'s. That 05 Dodge at 825hp on #2 had to be something to see.
     

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