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6.5l td drivability issue's

Discussion in 'GM 6.5 Diesel Engines' started by Budd Comeau, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Budd Comeau

    Budd Comeau New Member

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    OK so this my first experience with the 6.5l Chevrolet engine.
    1999 C3500 2wd 5spd
    1ton.
    Initially got these codes
    P0216
    Injection stepper motor fault.
    P0236
    Waste gate solenoid fault.
    P0238
    turbo boost sensor to high.
    P0251
    Pump cam reference pulse error.
    P0370
    High resolution circuit fault.
    P0606
    PCM internal communication interupt.
    P1216
    Fuel solenoid response to short.
    P1217
    Fuel solenoid response to long
    Changed all major sensors.
    Lift pumps, fuel filter.
    Cleared codes.
    Tonight I got codes P0251 P0606
    Please tell me what to fix.
    Starts right up,idles no miss,1,2,3,4 gear no issues.
    5th gear stutters then dies wat a few seconds starts right back up.
     
  2. Will L.

    Will L. Well-Known Member

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    That is a stack of codes, that dont all point to one item.
    Start by removing and cleaning all the grounds to engine, especially the ones by the transmission dipstick mount. both ends of battery ground cables.
    Weak or intermittent ground will send things crazy.

    Have you relocated your pmd to the bumper yet? If so what extension cable did you use? Have you tried your spare pmd yet?

    There is more to chase but that is where I would start.
     
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  3. Budd Comeau

    Budd Comeau New Member

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    Yes did pmd relocation.
    As stated I changed all major sensors.
    Changed both lift pumps.
    Cleared codes.
    Read test drove .
    Got P0251
    Pump cam reference pulse error.
    P0606
    PCM internal communication interupt.

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  4. Will L.

    Will L. Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, you could be chasing an IP or ecm, but ecm is crazy rare and IP is the most commonly replaced under error and still have same problem for this engine. Correct all the grounds - assume they are bad- dont just glance at it- and I forgot to mention ecm grounds also.
    After that try your spare pmd.
    No other problems like loss of other electrical circuits?

    Changing all sensors is generally a way to add new problem to the mix. New defective sensors happen too often, and now a second problem makes it harder to find the original issue. Most sensors can be tested via ohm meter and it’s worth it to not make things harder. When I get a bunch of miles or years and want to out them, I do it when everything is running good and do one at a time- But only because I learned the hard way and chased my tale for several hair pulling, wrench throwing, sailor talking hours. Haha.
     
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  5. Budd Comeau

    Budd Comeau New Member

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    Well I guess I'll be playing in the cold chasing ground issues.
    Haven't had any electrical issues any where.
    Wait a minute almost forgot.
    Had it towed.
    Had to remove winch from front receiver didn't tighten cables back all the way tight.
    Could that have caused ecm issue's?

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  6. Will L.

    Will L. Well-Known Member

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    As in battery cables? Yes!
     
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  7. Budd Comeau

    Budd Comeau New Member

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    Well there we go.
    Guess two heads are better than one,lol

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  8. snarl95

    snarl95 Active Member

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    How's the air filter.
     
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  9. Budd Comeau

    Budd Comeau New Member

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    New

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  10. Big T

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    Geez, did you buy a lottery ticket?

    P0236 Wastegate Solenoid and P0238 Turbo Boost are related. Typically when your boost is high is when your turbo wastegate is not working. Solenoid could be bad. Vacuum Pump could be bad. Vacuum lines could be disconnected or leaking.
     
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  11. Will L.

    Will L. Well-Known Member

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    Wait, was that it?
     
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  12. Budd Comeau

    Budd Comeau New Member

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    The symptoms are leading right back to it...
    Or so it seems. ...

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  13. MrMarty51

    MrMarty51 Well-Known Member

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    In the other thread, suggested a vacuum gauge and checking the vacuum pumps output.
    After checking vacuum on My truck, it was good, cleaning ALL grounds, cleaning EVERY TERMINAL UNDER THE HOOD and still getting codes, rechecked vacuum at the pump, getting only five inches, new pump, problem solved.
     
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  14. Big T

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    Wastegate solenoids do go out. From what I recall, there's a ball bearing in the solenoid. It gets rusty and the solenoid stops working, leading to overboost detected by the boost sensor. That could be your 236 and 238 codes.

    When the vacuum pump goes, typically you can hear it knocking. Presumably that's a bearing that went out.
     
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  15. MrMarty51

    MrMarty51 Well-Known Member

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    On the vacuum pump removed from My truck, the diaphragm appears to have separated from the center rod. I pulled the actuator from the diaphragm housing, the excentric rolls as smooth as can be. Pump made no noise at all, at least to My deaf ears. LOLOLOL
     

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