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1982 k30, sticking around

Discussion in 'GM 6.2 Diesels' started by red, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. red

    red stubborn Texan displaced to Utah

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    Heavy little bastard. Rear suspension from the old dump truck, didn't think it was that heavy.

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  2. BIGR

    BIGR Lucky To Be Here

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    Sometimes that stuff can surprise you.
     
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  3. red

    red stubborn Texan displaced to Utah

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    Well finally got around to finishing the cargo skid and welded on the tail 'roller' today. Correct it doesn't roll but it will last at least a few years before the pipe needs replacement/repair. Considering it's a scrap metal build it works haha.

    Used some 3 1/2" OD 1/8" thick pipe and welded it to both outside rails. Then used some 2"x 1" x 3/16" rectangular tubing running from the bed sub frame up to the bottom of the pipe to support the majority of the weight as it's pulled up and over the end of the bed.

    Did a test lift with a few hundred pounds of scrap metal tied onto the skid. Had to reinforce the front crossmember on the skid itself (figured it would be necessary). Used a piece of scrap 3/8" plate welded across the top of the crossmember to the pallet. Seems to be fine.

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    With it partway loaded onto the truck took it over closer to the shop. Welded up the skid reinforcements then used the mag drill and attached some tie down points to the skid. 4 per side.

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    Unless something breaks on it the skid is complete now. It's going to live a rough, useful life.
     
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  4. MrMarty51

    MrMarty51 Well-Known Member

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    Looks mighty fine.
     
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  5. Ed HD

    Ed HD Formerly: Dad's 05 LLY

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    Looks great!!! Sure beats needing to have a forklift, skid loader, etc to load you up.
     
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  6. red

    red stubborn Texan displaced to Utah

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    More use of the skid today. Got rid of the scrap metal that was on it then moved a couple wheels to the other side of the lot where the m816 is parked. There's 5 24.5" wheels on there.

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    At the scrap yard though it did have a problem. When the skid is loaded and pulled up all the way onto the bed (still overhangs past the bumper some) it does not want to slide off the end of the bed when trying to unload it. Even with the skid sitting on that pipe which I figured would help encourage it. So, the options I see are this. Continue telling people to hold my beer and watch as I drive at about 20mph in reverse then slam on the brakes to get it moving, or use something to pull it backwards a few feet until it reaches the tipping point. First option seems entertaining, but I'm going with the latter choice hahaha.

    Going to use a second winch (harbor freight 12k) that was going to the front of this truck, and instead mount it to the rear of the truck by the hitch. Attach it's cable to the front of the skid when loading it onto the truck and let it's cable follow underneath the skid up onto the bed and stay there. When it's time to unload just loosen up the bed winch cable some and use the rear winch to pull the skid backwards about 3-4ft where the tipping point is. Then use the bed winch to ease it down the rest of the way.

    Should be a more stable way to begin unloading the skid. With this truck going offroad anyways a strong rear winch can be useful. It's also serving as a test subject for when the m816 get's it's setup soon and what challenges it will have.
     
  7. Jaryd

    Jaryd Oh the sound a 6.5 makes

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    Sounds like a good plan to me.
     
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  8. red

    red stubborn Texan displaced to Utah

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    Found out the weight of the skid the other day at the scrap yard, it is pretty solid hahaha. Previous weight ticket without the skid is a empty weight of 6940 lbs, with just the skid on the last trip was 7500 lbs. Figuring differences in fuel the skid is at least 500 lbs of steel.

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    Spent today making stronger mounts for the rear of the flatbed and incorporated a mounting plate for the rear 12k winch. Used 3/8" plate for everything. The bracket is basically a short H in design, 7 1/2" wide.

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    Nice thing about a cheap flatbed is getting to test things out on it with little/no concern about it's appearance and find out if it works well or not. Like the tool box. Useful but it's not big enough.

    Couple more things that I want to add to the bed are a air tank, underside storage boxes, fuel tank (have a 60 ish gallon tank sitting here), raise the hitch up to even with the bottom of the frame, and make the rear skirt for the bed. Rear bumper will get to go bye bye then.
     
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  9. red

    red stubborn Texan displaced to Utah

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    Pictures from the trip today, headed up to a old mining town called 'Jacob City'. Varying terrain that was a mix of rock, dirt, snow, nothing difficult in that aspect but was very TIGHT along the switchbacks. Made for multiple 3-7 point turns for the pickup.

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    And the truck lost a tire. Roughly 3" split along the sidewall. Good thing the truck has 2 spares when not full of cargo haha.

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    The trail ride today did kind of solidify my decision in regards to dually or single rear wheels. The extra width at just the rear is a problem for my uses, and the truck isn't going to be used for heavy hauling regularly so going to single out the rear for good. For the axle that's a simple fix of using the hubs from a single wheeled rear and swapping them out to get the width to match front/rear. Narrowing the bed is more complex.
     
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  10. MrMarty51

    MrMarty51 Well-Known Member

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    I like the looks of the dually, with the box and extended fenders. if I would have came across a dually before I bought My single rear wheel truck, a dually it would have been.
    I have no need for a dually, just like the way the look. Don't need the expense of an extra pair a tires too. LOL
     
  11. red

    red stubborn Texan displaced to Utah

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    Yea the old crew cab duallys look good, just not the most practical unless always towing or loaded up heavy with cargo. If it was a inner dually like the cab/chassis models where it was the same width as the front axle then it wouldn't be an issue. Having the rear that much wider though, it tends to get caught on things and sometimes hard. My old 87 k30.

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    One idea that keeps popping up in my mind is to make the 82 a 6x6 eventually. Not likely to happen but I keep thinking about doing that to it haha.

    Focusing on the flatbed and rear of the truck is first. Mounting the bigger replacement fuel tank under the rear, a pair of air tanks, underside storage, move/modify the hitch, wire in the rear winch, and make the rear skirt for the flatbed. And the rear springs need to be replaced soon, noticed that the passenger side pack is down to just the top 3 leaves and the very bottom thick overload leaf.
     
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  12. WarWagon

    WarWagon Well it hits on 7 of 8...

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    After the scrap metal loads posted above I am confused as to why you would single this truck out! Offroading eats tires no matter what... :p
     
  13. red

    red stubborn Texan displaced to Utah

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    haha well most of the time the truck is not loaded like that. Got many trips recently because I had to. But, a point was brought up today by another friend in regards to the duals. The 5th wheel trailer I have would tow better with the dually partly because of the deck height. I forgot about that so trying to figure out a plan.
     

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