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    Im not familiar with GM manual transmissions. Can you put a PTO on any of them? Id like to build a wrecker and would like a PTO to run a hydraulic pump.
    1992 GMC F 6.5L TD 2wd 4L80E 253,000 miles, manual torque converter lock up switch, rear air bags, 2.5" crossover, 3" down pipe, 4" straight piped, remove key while running mod.

    1979 IH 484 diesel Rebuilt engine in 2007, repainted in 2008

    1992 GMC jimmy 4.3L V6 4x4 4L60E, about 200,000 miles AMSOIL

    1992 Chevy 2500 2wd 6.5L TD 4L80E 230,000 miles cranked up IP, home made turbomaster with 15psi boost.

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    yes sir, there are PTos available for the NV4500. one pops up on E-bay every once in a while. I would say go to a salvage yard so that you get one with all the install stuff needed. (are they all lever or cable engage, or do they have solenoids on them yet?) not up on my pickup PTOs.. I do know they have air shift on the bigger trucks, but as far as pickup PTOs, I am kind of lost!

    I dont know if the truck needs the PTO prep package, as I think the duramax generation needs it selected so that there is more floorboard clearance, IIRC.
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    95 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 148K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 131.5"WB SRW Fact. box-off PU has bare frame & B&W, growling trans, strong but blowby rich.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 206K White Ext. Tan Int. RC 135.5" WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed w/ manlift needs HB and TLC.
    93 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 4.10 255K White/Red Ext, Red Int. ECLB 155.5" WB SRW Pickup needs IP.
    91 GMC C1500 6.2NA SM465 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 70K Red Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs injectors.
    91 Chev C1500 4.3L 5LM60 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 ??K White Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs clutch and rear end rebuild.

    Project Fleet: major mechanical issues to prevent operation.
    96 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 240K White Ext, Blue Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW Pickup needs engine
    96 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 3.73 287K Grn/Tan Ex, Tan Int, ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup, fixing for accurate 2wd v 4wd mpg compare with above. needs trans.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 132K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab with flatbed bad heads, needs engine
    94 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD 4L80E 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 300K White Ext, Blue Int. Suburban needs engine
    94 Chevy C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 290K Gold Ext. Tan Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup. needs engine.
    94 Chevy C1500 6.5TD 4L80E 10 bolt 2wd 3.08 28xK Maroon Ext. Red int. Mint condition (save for surface rot on ext. cab) needs engine.

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    just typed in PTO on E-bay and plenty popped up. didnt see any that specifed NV4500 though.
    Running Fleet: good enough to be tagged. need little things.
    99 Chev C3500 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 130K White Ext, Gray Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed, getting flatbed. needs PS pump
    95 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 148K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 131.5"WB SRW Fact. box-off PU has bare frame & B&W, growling trans, strong but blowby rich.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 206K White Ext. Tan Int. RC 135.5" WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed w/ manlift needs HB and TLC.
    93 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 4.10 255K White/Red Ext, Red Int. ECLB 155.5" WB SRW Pickup needs IP.
    91 GMC C1500 6.2NA SM465 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 70K Red Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs injectors.
    91 Chev C1500 4.3L 5LM60 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 ??K White Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs clutch and rear end rebuild.

    Project Fleet: major mechanical issues to prevent operation.
    96 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 240K White Ext, Blue Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW Pickup needs engine
    96 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 3.73 287K Grn/Tan Ex, Tan Int, ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup, fixing for accurate 2wd v 4wd mpg compare with above. needs trans.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 132K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab with flatbed bad heads, needs engine
    94 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD 4L80E 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 300K White Ext, Blue Int. Suburban needs engine
    94 Chevy C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 290K Gold Ext. Tan Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup. needs engine.
    94 Chevy C1500 6.5TD 4L80E 10 bolt 2wd 3.08 28xK Maroon Ext. Red int. Mint condition (save for surface rot on ext. cab) needs engine.

    Junk fleet: never to see the road again.
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    Parent's: 98 GMC C3500 5.7L NV4500 208K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs HG's ; 92 GMC C3500HD 6.5L NV4500 160K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bellhousing ; 93 GMC C3500HD 6.5L 4L80E 260K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bed. ; 95 Chev C2500HD 6.5L 4l80E 121K RCLB needs cooler lines ; 98 Chev K2500HD 6.5L 4L80E 280K ECSB needs TLC ; 96 Chevy C3500 6.5L 4L80E 78K RCLB DRW, 8ft flatbed. 92 Chevy C3500 5.7L NV4500 169K RCLB DRW 8ft flatbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GM Guy View Post
    just typed in PTO on E-bay and plenty popped up. didnt see any that specifed NV4500 though.
    I found about 4 of them on ebay that I think would work. I was reading about the allison 1000, other then that I dont think you can get a PTO on a GM automatic.

    Mosth if the wreckers I seen have a cable to engage it, some of the new ones may be electric.
    1992 GMC F 6.5L TD 2wd 4L80E 253,000 miles, manual torque converter lock up switch, rear air bags, 2.5" crossover, 3" down pipe, 4" straight piped, remove key while running mod.

    1979 IH 484 diesel Rebuilt engine in 2007, repainted in 2008

    1992 GMC jimmy 4.3L V6 4x4 4L60E, about 200,000 miles AMSOIL

    1992 Chevy 2500 2wd 6.5L TD 4L80E 230,000 miles cranked up IP, home made turbomaster with 15psi boost.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkajP4CAvpk

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    I think the big borg-warner cases on the 1 tons might be PTO capable themselves, so that is how one cheats with an auto. or get an engine driven pump.
    Running Fleet: good enough to be tagged. need little things.
    99 Chev C3500 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 130K White Ext, Gray Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed, getting flatbed. needs PS pump
    95 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 148K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 131.5"WB SRW Fact. box-off PU has bare frame & B&W, growling trans, strong but blowby rich.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 206K White Ext. Tan Int. RC 135.5" WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed w/ manlift needs HB and TLC.
    93 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 4.10 255K White/Red Ext, Red Int. ECLB 155.5" WB SRW Pickup needs IP.
    91 GMC C1500 6.2NA SM465 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 70K Red Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs injectors.
    91 Chev C1500 4.3L 5LM60 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 ??K White Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs clutch and rear end rebuild.

    Project Fleet: major mechanical issues to prevent operation.
    96 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 240K White Ext, Blue Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW Pickup needs engine
    96 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 3.73 287K Grn/Tan Ex, Tan Int, ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup, fixing for accurate 2wd v 4wd mpg compare with above. needs trans.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 132K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab with flatbed bad heads, needs engine
    94 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD 4L80E 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 300K White Ext, Blue Int. Suburban needs engine
    94 Chevy C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 290K Gold Ext. Tan Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup. needs engine.
    94 Chevy C1500 6.5TD 4L80E 10 bolt 2wd 3.08 28xK Maroon Ext. Red int. Mint condition (save for surface rot on ext. cab) needs engine.

    Junk fleet: never to see the road again.
    91 GMC K2500LD 6.2NA 700R4 4wd, in many pieces; 95 GM bare Extended cab; 99 GM 3500 DRW front frame chunk; 4 NV4500s; 3 extra engines, many other parts.

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    Parent's: 98 GMC C3500 5.7L NV4500 208K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs HG's ; 92 GMC C3500HD 6.5L NV4500 160K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bellhousing ; 93 GMC C3500HD 6.5L 4L80E 260K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bed. ; 95 Chev C2500HD 6.5L 4l80E 121K RCLB needs cooler lines ; 98 Chev K2500HD 6.5L 4L80E 280K ECSB needs TLC ; 96 Chevy C3500 6.5L 4L80E 78K RCLB DRW, 8ft flatbed. 92 Chevy C3500 5.7L NV4500 169K RCLB DRW 8ft flatbed.

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    How does a PTO work, on a transfer case wouldnt you have to have the transmission in drive to run a pto?
    1992 GMC F 6.5L TD 2wd 4L80E 253,000 miles, manual torque converter lock up switch, rear air bags, 2.5" crossover, 3" down pipe, 4" straight piped, remove key while running mod.

    1979 IH 484 diesel Rebuilt engine in 2007, repainted in 2008

    1992 GMC jimmy 4.3L V6 4x4 4L60E, about 200,000 miles AMSOIL

    1992 Chevy 2500 2wd 6.5L TD 4L80E 230,000 miles cranked up IP, home made turbomaster with 15psi boost.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkajP4CAvpk

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    yes you would. IDK if setting the cruise with t-case in neutral would do it or not.
    Running Fleet: good enough to be tagged. need little things.
    99 Chev C3500 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 130K White Ext, Gray Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed, getting flatbed. needs PS pump
    95 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 148K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 131.5"WB SRW Fact. box-off PU has bare frame & B&W, growling trans, strong but blowby rich.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 206K White Ext. Tan Int. RC 135.5" WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed w/ manlift needs HB and TLC.
    93 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 4.10 255K White/Red Ext, Red Int. ECLB 155.5" WB SRW Pickup needs IP.
    91 GMC C1500 6.2NA SM465 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 70K Red Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs injectors.
    91 Chev C1500 4.3L 5LM60 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 ??K White Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs clutch and rear end rebuild.

    Project Fleet: major mechanical issues to prevent operation.
    96 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 240K White Ext, Blue Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW Pickup needs engine
    96 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 3.73 287K Grn/Tan Ex, Tan Int, ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup, fixing for accurate 2wd v 4wd mpg compare with above. needs trans.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 132K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab with flatbed bad heads, needs engine
    94 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD 4L80E 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 300K White Ext, Blue Int. Suburban needs engine
    94 Chevy C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 290K Gold Ext. Tan Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup. needs engine.
    94 Chevy C1500 6.5TD 4L80E 10 bolt 2wd 3.08 28xK Maroon Ext. Red int. Mint condition (save for surface rot on ext. cab) needs engine.

    Junk fleet: never to see the road again.
    91 GMC K2500LD 6.2NA 700R4 4wd, in many pieces; 95 GM bare Extended cab; 99 GM 3500 DRW front frame chunk; 4 NV4500s; 3 extra engines, many other parts.

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    Parent's: 98 GMC C3500 5.7L NV4500 208K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs HG's ; 92 GMC C3500HD 6.5L NV4500 160K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bellhousing ; 93 GMC C3500HD 6.5L 4L80E 260K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bed. ; 95 Chev C2500HD 6.5L 4l80E 121K RCLB needs cooler lines ; 98 Chev K2500HD 6.5L 4L80E 280K ECSB needs TLC ; 96 Chevy C3500 6.5L 4L80E 78K RCLB DRW, 8ft flatbed. 92 Chevy C3500 5.7L NV4500 169K RCLB DRW 8ft flatbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GM Guy View Post
    yes you would. IDK if setting the cruise with t-case in neutral would do it or not.
    I think you put the T case in neutral and then run the PTO through the transmission.
    1992 GMC F 6.5L TD 2wd 4L80E 253,000 miles, manual torque converter lock up switch, rear air bags, 2.5" crossover, 3" down pipe, 4" straight piped, remove key while running mod.

    1979 IH 484 diesel Rebuilt engine in 2007, repainted in 2008

    1992 GMC jimmy 4.3L V6 4x4 4L60E, about 200,000 miles AMSOIL

    1992 Chevy 2500 2wd 6.5L TD 4L80E 230,000 miles cranked up IP, home made turbomaster with 15psi boost.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkajP4CAvpk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaeljp86 View Post
    I think you put the T case in neutral and then run the PTO through the transmission.
    yes, but I was wondering how to set it so that it maintained pto speed. maybe a n OEM PTO prep package will have tcc lockup built in?
    Running Fleet: good enough to be tagged. need little things.
    99 Chev C3500 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 130K White Ext, Gray Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed, getting flatbed. needs PS pump
    95 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 148K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 131.5"WB SRW Fact. box-off PU has bare frame & B&W, growling trans, strong but blowby rich.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 206K White Ext. Tan Int. RC 135.5" WB DRW Chassis Cab w/ utility bed w/ manlift needs HB and TLC.
    93 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 4.10 255K White/Red Ext, Red Int. ECLB 155.5" WB SRW Pickup needs IP.
    91 GMC C1500 6.2NA SM465 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 70K Red Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs injectors.
    91 Chev C1500 4.3L 5LM60 10 bolt 2wd 3.42 ??K White Ext, Red Int. RCLB 131.5"WB SRW Pickup needs clutch and rear end rebuild.

    Project Fleet: major mechanical issues to prevent operation.
    96 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 240K White Ext, Blue Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW Pickup needs engine
    96 Chev K2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 4wd 3.73 287K Grn/Tan Ex, Tan Int, ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup, fixing for accurate 2wd v 4wd mpg compare with above. needs trans.
    95 Chev C3500HD 6.5TD NV4500 D80 2wd 5.13 132K White Ext, Grey Int. RC 159.5"WB DRW Chassis Cab with flatbed bad heads, needs engine
    94 GMC C2500HD 6.5TD 4L80E 14 bolt 2wd 3.73 300K White Ext, Blue Int. Suburban needs engine
    94 Chevy C2500HD 6.5TD NV4500 14 bolt 2wd 4.10 290K Gold Ext. Tan Int. ECLB 155.5"WB SRW pickup. needs engine.
    94 Chevy C1500 6.5TD 4L80E 10 bolt 2wd 3.08 28xK Maroon Ext. Red int. Mint condition (save for surface rot on ext. cab) needs engine.

    Junk fleet: never to see the road again.
    91 GMC K2500LD 6.2NA 700R4 4wd, in many pieces; 95 GM bare Extended cab; 99 GM 3500 DRW front frame chunk; 4 NV4500s; 3 extra engines, many other parts.

    Proud Member: #144 of DTR.com; #19 Brotherhood of Handshakers; #35 3500 Dually Club; #4 Flatbed Club; #10 Spark Plug Club

    Parent's: 98 GMC C3500 5.7L NV4500 208K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs HG's ; 92 GMC C3500HD 6.5L NV4500 160K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bellhousing ; 93 GMC C3500HD 6.5L 4L80E 260K RC 11ft bed chassis cab needs bed. ; 95 Chev C2500HD 6.5L 4l80E 121K RCLB needs cooler lines ; 98 Chev K2500HD 6.5L 4L80E 280K ECSB needs TLC ; 96 Chevy C3500 6.5L 4L80E 78K RCLB DRW, 8ft flatbed. 92 Chevy C3500 5.7L NV4500 169K RCLB DRW 8ft flatbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GM Guy View Post
    yes, but I was wondering how to set it so that it maintained pto speed. maybe a n OEM PTO prep package will have tcc lockup built in?
    Im not sure about a tcc lockup, I heard on the dmax with a allison 1000 you set the cruise to hold the speed. Seems like a tcc lockup would be about the only way to go.
    1992 GMC F 6.5L TD 2wd 4L80E 253,000 miles, manual torque converter lock up switch, rear air bags, 2.5" crossover, 3" down pipe, 4" straight piped, remove key while running mod.

    1979 IH 484 diesel Rebuilt engine in 2007, repainted in 2008

    1992 GMC jimmy 4.3L V6 4x4 4L60E, about 200,000 miles AMSOIL

    1992 Chevy 2500 2wd 6.5L TD 4L80E 230,000 miles cranked up IP, home made turbomaster with 15psi boost.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkajP4CAvpk

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